EP 80: Using Spiritual Practices to Heal Trauma

an Interview with Jana Stern

 In this episode, we explore the intersection of metaphysical and energy work, focusing on self-care, self-healing, and growth. Jana shares her journey from a gifted child to a seasoned healer, emphasizing the importance of embodying spiritual practices and tools.

Hello Ear Bud Coven … today’s episode is all about embodiment and empowerment in our spiritual journey> i’m interviewing Psychic teacher and astrologer Jana Stern

Join us as we dive into an enlightening conversation where we explore the intersection of metaphysical and energy work, focusing on self-care, self-healing, and growth.

Jana shares her journey from a gifted child to a seasoned healer, emphasizing the importance of embodying spiritual practices and tools.

Learn about Jana’s unique approaches, and her six-month program, the Resilience Revolution. Where she works with her clients to discover practical tips for grounding and connecting with our energy system.

We talk about how to navigate the ongoing shifts and changes in the world through a spiritual lens.

Pop in those ear buds because you don’t want to miss this empowering discussion filled with wisdom and actionable advice for your spiritual journey.

links to Jana’s offerings

Jana Stern

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https://www.janastern.com/

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Transcript

Jodi Anne: [00:00:00] Hello, my beautiful earbud coven. How are you this morning? How are you doing today? I’m so excited. I have got Jana Stern with me, and she is another psychic, so we’re going to get into that, and an astrologer. And you all in the earbud coven know that I am not great at astrology. I depend on really good astrologers to get me through all the shifts and changes happening in our big world right now.

Because I am a tarot witch and I can’t do all the things. So I’m so excited to have Jana here. And one of the reasons I was looking forward to introducing her to you all is because she looks at metaphysical and energy work through one of the lenses I do around self care and self healing and growth and how you can really connect with your energy system and break through things and create real healing in your life.

Jana, [00:01:00] welcome.

Jana: Thank you. Thank you so much for having me. You have such a lovely energy, and you’re clearly, been doing this for a while. I can feel that you’re, while you’re like pushing your astrology gift over here, you’re, first of all, you don’t know nothing, and also you’re, there’s a lot to know about the universe, I often say but also good for you that you know what you know, and that you know it, and that you don’t know everything.

I think that’s like a really important skill set.

Jodi Anne: Yeah. Do you find this? Because I know you’ve been practicing for a while as well. It’s kind of like you get to the point where what you thought was the information is the tip of the iceberg. And thew, it’s like the more, you know, the more, you know, you don’t know.

 Which is a beautiful place to be in. Because then, like for me right now, I’m teaching a lot. So I learn more teaching, I think, now

Jana: yeah,

Jodi Anne: I learn more from my students than I do from books. Just the questions they ask

Jana: yeah, you have to like, reconceptualize something every time a [00:02:00] question is asked of you because esoteric knowledge is convoluted and it comes from such a huge quantum space, right? There’s so much to know. So when somebody asks a question, you’re like, hold on, let me reframe what it is that is in my brain as reality.

How do I make it your reality? In order to, like, translate that, yeah, you have to fully be like, wait. I’m living in my head, in reality, in my reality. But I have to like, help to bring this into consciousness through these people who are asking me questions. for sure. Of course. You know, I’m with you on that.

You learn a lot as a teacher. I’ve been teaching for many years and I love to teach because I love an audience. Got a Leo rising. I don’t. Ever get tired of how it feels to be around other people and to be able to bestow the things that are true for me into the consciousness of others, because for so long in my life, my truth was denied and [00:03:00] suppressed and revoked and all the rest of that.

And so it’s really nice to be in the energy of people who are like, what else? And how do I learn this? And what do, you know, and, you know. Studying for 15 years. You learn a thing or two. So

Jodi Anne: right. And it is interesting I relate to that so much where you come to this path and it can be really isolating because there are new ideas.

Jana: Yes,

Jodi Anne: and you’re pushing the boundaries of what you believe reality is. Like, you’re diving into energies and you’re diving into a way of thinking that can be very empowering, right? To realize that you actually have some control over your destiny, that you actually can shift the energy in your life and create and build what you want.

And for me, that was very different from how I was raised. So it was very isolating for a long time to be on the spiritual [00:04:00] path. And now being in this place, it’s a place where I find connection instead of isolation. Does that make sense?

Jana: Yeah, especially if you’ve been on the path a long time.

Yeah, 15 years ago, this was super isolating and invalidating. It’s triggering for other people when you’re like, your reality is fake. They’re like, no, it’s not. It’s real. These are real things. And you’re like, nothing’s real. Get over yourself. . But most people don’t get over themselves because we cling to reality.

And so it challenges a lot and it has been. It. In previous years of my life, isolating and invalidating and also it has been really empowering and now that we’re sort of seeing this trend move in the direction where spirituality just like more and more.

I don’t know when this airs, but as of when we’re recording, the North Note moved into Pisces. It’ll be there for the next 18 months. So this still applies by the time this airs , but that energy is all about this sort of like embodying. So this the, if the North note is in Pisces, the south node is gonna be in [00:05:00] Virgo.

And so it’s really about embodying our spirituality and embodying what it means to be spiritual and to use your practices that you’ve learned in your life. So now that’s not only just trending, but it’s also astrologically accurate. We’re going to start to see more and more people being like, what do you know that I don’t know about this spiritual truth that’s out there?

We need more teachers. We need more people who are learning these things and more and more people are going to be curious about it. So, yeah, it’s good to be teaching and it’s good to be in the mindset as a teacher that you’re learning from your students because the worst teachers are the ones who think they know everything and the best teachers, the ones who are like.

Yeah. of this wide, large scale thing. I know like this much, and I will give it to you, and then you can go ahead and do other things with it.

Jodi Anne: Tell me a bit about how you got to this path?

Jana: So, trigger warning for the lovely listeners, for your, what do you call [00:06:00] them, earbud coven?

How cute is that? My earbud

Jodi Anne: coven, yeah, because we hang out in our earbuds. Because I really feel like, when I’m talking to you, I feel them here. When I’m talking to my microphone at home alone, I feel like I’m talking directly with them. I feel it’s quite a privilege to be allowed space in someone’s earbuds.

Jana: Oh, yeah, I agree.

Jodi Anne: It’s a very honoured space So they’re my coven where I get to share all my inner thoughts and where they can DM me and email me and talk to me back in this beautiful little container we’ve made in space and time.

Jana: I love it. Well, hello, Coven. It’s lovely to be here.

I was a child who was incredibly gifted. I was full of light. I was brilliant and beautiful and light in my energy, light in my eyes, light, just all light. And there was always a shroud of darkness in my reality. My father is mentally ill. He’s been paranoid, schizophrenic and bipolar my whole life.

And there were lots of complications with [00:07:00] that. But, as a child, I could hear crystals, I could tap in with spirit, and pretty early on, I started to recognize that hearing voices is basically what my father does, and there was like this pull of like, well, I can’t help but hear it, but obviously hearing it means crazy, and so there was lots of stuff that went on my parents divorced, and then in my 20s and teens, I had a pretty serious eating disorder.

In my twenties, I went into treatment and just before treatment, I had a suicide attempt and I was gone for 11 minutes. And when they brought me back, it was very clear that I had a mission. So I took the mission very seriously as I do pretty much everything in my life.

Jodi Anne: I’m really glad that you took the mission.

Jana: Me too. Thanks for saying that. Yeah. I’m glad I took the mission too. Sometimes I’m like the hell did I choose, but mostly I’m grateful.

Jodi Anne: Yeah, that means it’s a good mission and you’re [00:08:00] doing well because if you were feeling like you were on top of it all the time, you wouldn’t be stretching girl. You wouldn’t be on the edge and you wouldn’t be moving the collective energy forward.

And I don’t think that’s my wisdom because I’m covered in goosebumps. So. I think that’s coming from somewhere that loves you a lot.

Jana: Thank you. Yeah I do know that. And but it’s always lovely to hear. So thank you. Yeah, so I, I chose the mission and I started to dive into spirituality. I started in Oracle cards and coming back to my roots with crystals.

Now I literally have hundreds, if not thousands, of crystals in my house. I was very lucky. My grandfather was a huge collector, so I inherited a lot of his collection. And then it became a collector’s collection, and then bigger and bigger. They talk to me, they tell me stories, they sing me songs, they’re very bossy.

And then I started to dive into esoteric knowledge and hermetics. And I learned [00:09:00] something called the life activation, which changed my life and became something of a metaphysician started to dive deeper into astrology, which is also part of my lineage. My grandmother was, she’s a Virgo which like beautifully, is completes my Pisces axis.

 She has. Birth charts of her and my grandfather and my father from the 70s or the 60s, like, long time ago. She’s been looking at charts. And it is part of our religion to follow the moon. And so I got deeper into that too. And the deeper I went, the deeper I wanted to go.

I started, learning about human design. I’ve, put my toe into understanding the chakras and the energy behind each chakra and like all these different things and the, as you know, I often say when you open one door, a hall of portals open for you where you’re like, Oh my God, I can learn so much more about this stuff.

I’ve put my, my, my spoon and, or my toe in many of those doors. Sometimes I’ve sort of stepped all the way in, been [00:10:00] embodied in a room and then step back or added it, and then put things into my backpack as I carry on my journey. But yeah, I’ve been doing this a long time.

It feels like many lifetimes. But I love what I do. I have. A lot of different practices that I do for myself and for clients that are all really based on you need to have a lot of tools in this reality some are better than others. I think therapy is a great tool.

I think therapeutic language is a great tool. I think somatics are great tools. I think yoga is a great tool. I think pretty much any tool in the tool belt is a good one to have. So I teach a lot about those things and I talk a lot about them. And yeah, I just try to help others to understand that it is possible for you to not only have the tools, but as I say about this, nodal access shift, it’s possible also to embody those things. It’s possible to pay 5, 000 for a retreat and then come back and feel like you’ve retreated and like you want to integrate this information into [00:11:00] your daily life and not just be on retreat one time and then hustle and bustle and go crazy in your real life,

Jodi Anne: . So can you tell me. Okay. For the listeners, what’s the difference between having a tool and embodying a tool?

Because, I feel like I understand what you mean, because I see a lot of people who are my clients that I read for regularly, or who I work with regularly, energetically.

And there, there is a difference between having a basket of tools and using your basket of tools. And I want to hear it through the lens of embodying your tools, please.

Jana: Yeah you can. For example be in a relationship with another person and know that. That person has valid perspectives.

They come from their trauma, their experiences, their beliefs and all of their traumas, beliefs and experiences are valid and still in the moment when they come to you and say something that triggers you, you [00:12:00] have the tool to pause and take a breath. You have the tool to center yourself. You have the tool to you know, do some deep breath work.

You know those tools, you’ve practiced them, but in the moment you let yourself fly off the handle and say nasty things and do the thing that is harmful to them and to you, but an embodied version would be, I don’t like the way I feel right now, I need five minutes to breathe so that I can show up here in my best self.

Right? Or it could be that you know that when you light candles on your altar, you feel good. You feel like you’re connected to your ancestors. You feel like you’re in a ritual. You feel like you’re in a healthy habit and routine that serves a higher power, a higher self. But then you don’t light your candle.

And when [00:13:00] you do, you’re like, Oh my god, why don’t I do this more? This feels really good. But then you don’t light your candles. And then you do, and you’re like, I really ought to do this more. I should shame myself when I don’t do it. And then you shame yourself more. And then you don’t light them. And then you’re going in a cycle.

Jodi Anne: Are you in my brain? Are you in my brain?

Jana: So, Instead of doing all those things, you could just actually, literally, Light your candles as soon as you think about it and then be like, that was good enough. And the next time I do it, that will also be good enough. And every minute in between the lighting and the lighting.

It is.

It is. It doesn’t need to be something different. I don’t need to be beating myself up , that I’m not in a daily habit and routine of something that I want to be in a daily habit and routine of because the embodiment is about forgiveness when you’re not there. So when I was in treatment, we would say [00:14:00] a slip is not a fall, right?

Sometimes you have a night where you’re feeling like crap, and you just want to eat the chips. You just want to eat the row of cookies. It is. And that’s a slip, but that doesn’t mean that you need to go and have every single symptom from there, and it doesn’t mean that tomorrow you have to do it again, and it doesn’t mean that for the next six months you should beat yourself up that you had one day where you did the thing you weren’t quote supposed to do.

Yeah, none of that serves you embodiment is really about like. I’m in a body, meaning I have stress, I have experiences, things come up. I’m a person and I also have my own traumas and things that I’ve lived through and you know, programming that I’m trying to deprogram. And the worst thing I can do to deprogram them is beat myself up for not already being deprogrammed because the programming is not my fault.

What we used to say in treatment was. It didn’t take you six [00:15:00] weeks to develop an eating disorder, so it’s not going to take you six weeks to drop it, right? It takes time to build a habit. So if it’s 90 days actually to build a habit, so if it takes you 90 days to build a habit and you slip up on day two, Or day five or day 15.

Okay. You don’t start from zero and screw the whole thing, blow it up and go another, you know, 25 days. Well, I screwed up on day 15 and what a terrible person I am.

Jodi Anne: Because that’s the programming.

Jana: Correct.

Jodi Anne: That’s the programming telling you that you cannot heal, that you must stay in the trauma, that it is not good enough, which then reinforces the cycle.

Jana: Perfection as the villain to good, right?

Jodi Anne: I like that. I think you should say that again. That’s good.

Jana: Perfection as the villain to good. Like just really just being in, in the way [00:16:00] of good is good enough.

Jodi Anne: Because so many of us and I speak to us as women because I’m socialized as a woman, right?

Sure. So many of us have this programming from our culture that we must be perfect. Yes. That we must be this. level of enoughness in order to be good. So I really like how that frames that perfectionism is the villain to goodness. When you are being perfect, you’re actually not being good at all. Cause one, you’re not serving yourself.

Yes.

You’re putting yourself behind what others need from you. You’re not being the main character in your life. You’re allowing other people’s standards to define your validity as a person.

Jana: Correct.

Jodi Anne: Yeah, I like that. I’m gonna hang on to that saying.

Jana: I often say if you’re playing, you’re winning.

Jodi Anne: Another good one.

Jana: There are a [00:17:00] lot of people who don’t play.

It’s surprising.

 And that’s the thing about the healing journey is like, we’re always trying to achieve something in the journey.

I want to get to a healed place. I want to heal. There’s no such thing.

 The purpose of the healing journey is the journey. Yeah, you’re meant to keep. Stumbling and reaching these blocks and meeting people on the path who challenge and trigger. You’re meant to keep having dynamics with some of the people, maybe not all, but some of the people who might have caused harm to you and how you evolved in those dynamics, how you respond differently, how you allow differently, how you love differently in those dynamics, that’s what your journey is

Jodi Anne: Hundred percent.

I like that. So when you’re talking about no destination, it’s funny because I relate to that I was having a conversation the other day with one of my girlfriends because I’ve been pretty [00:18:00] balanced for a while Right.

My PTSD has been quieter I’ve gotten a little bit less inside the tornado and so I can navigate things with more ease Lately, and so of course I don’t know if it was the Pluto movement or what it was, but starting in November and then all the way till this January shift, shift. So almost every crystal bracelet I’ve worn has broken and I’m like, oh, okay.

Thank you. Thank you for your service. Clearly. I’ve moved through whatever you were helping me with. Okay. Moving right along. And I felt big shifts. And I can see healing work that I’ve done previously, like things I’ve let go of, and different things I’ve had burning ceremonies for and stuff, and then things will come up and I’ll go, Oh, that doesn’t feel reactive.

Thank you, burning ceremony. That’s gone. I can see I’ve gotten rid of that belief, right? So of course new stuff’s coming up and I was on the phone with my girlfriend and I’m like, well, I must be feeling [00:19:00] safe and stable because here’s a whole bunch of new triggers I haven’t remembered in a while. And she’s like, yay!

Because that’s the healing journey. And sometimes it feels like punishment, like, wait a sec, I was just feeling like a normal person.

Jana: Such thing as normal and who would want to be that anyway, I will say just like a quick plug. Because if you’re watching this on video, or even if not, this is what we call the Jana jingle.

I’m always decked out in bracelets, and I have a 20 percent off code with my friends at Enchanting Earth. They have made a lot of these bracelets that you see on my wrist. They sell rare and unique and beautiful ethically sourced crystals, which I love. Nice. So yeah, if you go check out the link in my bio that says Enchanting Earth, click it, go purchase some bracelets, rings, oh my, these rings are also from them.

Jodi Anne: Mmm. Yeah, I like those.

Jana: Yeah, my Moldavite and I think it’s Yellow [00:20:00] Sapphire, and this is called Dendritic. Aquamarine. So, yeah, they make beautiful pieces. So if you’re in the market for some new crystals or crystal jewelry, go ahead and check out Enchanting Earth. But yeah, I think, with the whole journey, it’s funny that you say that about, you know, these new triggers.

One of the big theme of my work that I do with my clients I have a six month. Program called the resilience revolution, and it’s really all about building that resilience and sitting in that the universe is purposely going to give you opportunity for seeing your growth and every single time. It is an opportunity for you to pass or fail the test.

And when you fail, that the next test is to not be angry at yourself for failing. And when you win, yeah, for sure.

Jodi Anne: That’s amazing. When you fail, it is the opportunity to not be angry at [00:21:00] yourself for failing.

Jana: And when you win, it is an opportunity to not be in what I’m going to say, like gloating energy that you won.

Right? You’re not better than because you chose the spiritual thing to do, it’s what the source wants you to do. So if you didn’t do it, cool, you’re human, let it go. If you did do it, cool, you’re human, let it go. Exactly. I love that. Exactly. Non attachment, right? Like the true non attachment. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so it’s an adventure, this game.

Jodi Anne: And this is a six month course you have? Tell me about that. Can tell me a bit about that container. What does that look like for people who are interested in working with you?

Jana: It’s six months of group coaching where we go really deep into many different tools and practices, [00:22:00] including astrology and tarot and divination and many different other things, including boundaries, which are the best to go through each stage.

module month by month. I do offer additional one on one coaching if you want that. It can either be monthly coaching or weekly coaching depending on how much involvement and coaching you feel you need. But we really go through all these different things so that at the end of the six months, you feel resilient and self sufficient enough because we’re all so intuitive, right?

Every single person on this planet, we’re all so intuitive. We all have gifts. We’ve all been shut down. We’ve all been suppressed. We are all the witches that could not have been burned. We are incarnations of magic and esoteric wisdom from well beyond. We are literally stardust and we’ve forgotten in our day to day lives.

All I do is remind you all of the different ways through numerology, through the stars, through the [00:23:00] crystals, through the earth, through the elements, through your own physical body. We go through the chakras and the energetic bodies and remind you all of the ways that you have been taught not to worship yourself.

And then to stay in your resilience moment to moment to moment. And then in that one on one time, if you choose it, we go deep. There we’re going into your own chart reading, you start with a chart reading where I’m looking at your chart and I’m either sending you a recording of everything that I see, or you and I are sitting in a two hour session where we’re pulling apart every planet, every aspect, and every house, and everything, and the transits, and then week to week, or month to month, we’re diving in, what’s got you off the path of that map of your soul?

What’s got you forgetting who you really are? And. How are you engaging with the things in your world? Where are you maybe out of alignment? One of my [00:24:00] clients years ago said, and it stuck ever since, that a reading with me is like a loving smackdown. Because I’m gonna tell you exactly what you need to hear, that you’re ready to hear in a way that’s a little bit like, Ooh, okay, now I gotta integrate that.

And so we go deep into all of these different things so that you can really get out of your own way. Yeah. We all have a resilience and it’s really about being that resilience now because This, you said it earlier, you said when we first began this big year of 2025, it’s big,

Jodi Anne: it’s huge. , I haven’t had shifts like this in a long time and I’m working all the time and I’m seeing it in all the other witches.

I know

Jana: it’s the 12th of January. We just got here and we are only at the beginning because yesterday the nodes moved, which is okay. It opens an 18 year cycle, but Every, except for Pluto, which moved at the end of last year, [00:25:00] every single collective large planet, which is Saturn, Jupiter, Uranus, Neptune, they are, and they’re going to move into new signs.

They’re going to move into big, expansive spaces where, in some instances, they could be there for 10 years. We may be, we’re stepping into totally new energies, and they’re all happening like boom. , by the end of this year, by this time, one year from now, collectively we will be a different humanity.

Period.

Jodi Anne: I feel that. Yeah. And I know you said we’re just in the 12th of January. And I think the reason I know it was big was starting at Samhain last year. Everyone I know who’s in tune and working releasing, letting it go. And I was like, Ooh, this is going to be big because all of these really [00:26:00] powerhouse women I know are ripping shit up whether or not they want to

Jana: correct.

Jodi Anne: Not always by choice, sometimes kicking and screaming, things have been ripped right from their souls, and tragically, and they’re grounded enough that they didn’t go into those spirals.

Yes.

Jana: That’s because we’ve evolved collectively. That’s because we’re ready for it now. Yeah.

And the lessons that we’ve been integrating and learning and mastering over years, decades, however long. We are collectively ready for the next level for this big shift and it’s happening whether we like it or not.

And so, this big theme of surrender is hugely important. And that is why the resilience revolution exists. Because. We’re gonna need to be resilient to get through this time. Because there are still a lot of people who do not want to do the work. Who do not want to evolve. Who [00:27:00] do not want change.

And, like, with love, G. F. Y. You know, I’m good on that you don’t want to do it, but it’s happening anyway. We can no longer deny that things have shifted. Since 2020, since 2021, even since 2024, you know, things have shifted and they’re going to continue to, and we got to stay in our own, following our own compass and our compass, by the way, is determined by our birth chart.

Who are we designed to be? Who are we born? Who are we trapped in, in this body? You take your first breath and you’re in it. Your spirit is stuck until the end. I tried escaping. Didn’t work. Stay where you are. You are where you are. And if you don’t like where you are, then you need to work with who you were designed to be the you that you want to be.

And there’s lots of tools that are available and can you receive them fully and then embody them,

Jodi Anne: I like that [00:28:00] message too. I really like that. So I’m going to repeat it because what I’m hearing you say is, and I’m with you that we come into this incarnation with that map of the astrology with that road map of who you are.

And if you don’t like it, is it because. Are you fighting against who you actually are

Jana: correct

Jodi Anne: and trying to be what you think you should be, or the ideals that were put upon you, or the culturization you were given, or the messages you received from the unhealed people in your life. Because who you are supposed to be in this incarnation, that bright spark that lights you up, that person you are when you’re giggling uncontrollably, that person who’s inside of all of us.

Deserves light and air and breath and to be taken out of wherever you’ve shoved them, because that’s where you find happiness. Right.

Jana: Exactly. And [00:29:00] it’s really the resilience revolution. It’s a homecoming. You just come back home to yourself. And at the end of that six months, you are equipped to go on whatever the journey is.

And so we go through it like I go through it month to month to month and at the end so anybody can join at any time because it’s not linear like healing. Right? Yeah. When you jump in, you’re ready to go ready to start join us in our group. And then as we move through, there’s always more to learn always more to grow.

And I’m always learning new tools. So, as I learn, I always teach. I also got certified in EFT, which if you know what that is, it is a brilliant practice.

Jodi Anne: Let’s tell everyone out loud what it stands for.

Jana: It’s Emotional Freedom Technology or Emotional Freedom Tapping, and it’s literally tapping on different points of the meridian.

So the side of your hand, the top of your head, your eyebrow, side of your eye, under your eye, under your nose, under your under your lip, then your, [00:30:00] yeah, your chest, and then the sides of your rib cage. And as you’re tapping, you are repeating mantras and releasing things from the energetic body. And a good EFT practitioner will be able to help you pull things out from the root.

And we do that in the group. So what you’re going through usually mirrors what everybody’s going through because we’re all going through everything together again. Look up the planets. It’ll tell you what we’re going through. It’ll express itself differently individually, but usually we’re all on the same thread, especially in soul family.

So we tap together, we move through things together. You can ask questions. I have quite a bit of. Info somewhere in this brain I got a lot of knowledge up here, so I share a lot of things. People ask questions. So there’s lots and lots of opportunities for evolution and for growth and for releasing and for.

Stepping away from the things that make you betray your true self, that self that [00:31:00] does let yourself laugh uncontrollably and feel the light of the sun on your skin and feel what it feels like to be alive. And to revel in it, to really just be alive on purpose, as opposed to going through the motions

Jodi Anne: so, to connect with you and find your course, where do we go love?

Jana: Yeah, you can go to Jana stern. com. So J AN A S T E R N. com.

 If you click on coaching, that’ll lead you to the resilience revolution and give you more information about that. I also have a podcast, which is called I’m really into that stuff.

It’s a lovely conversation with multiple different friends of mine. I have lots of interesting conversations with different people about how they got to this woo weird world. Which I love. And I’m on all socials, you can find me at Jana Stern Healer so that’s like the best way to find me on all the things.

Jodi Anne: Thank you so much for sharing everything with us today. I could talk to you for another hour, but I think we’re at [00:32:00] time, right? It’s only a half hour or so. We’re definitely in the or so, and this podcast, it’s been lovely. I just feel, I feel what you’re putting down girl. . It’s beautiful.

And maybe what I’ll ask you is for just one small practice for anyone in the earbud coven who is having one of those moments where they are just in that shame storm in that not enoughness and they’re they don’t have a great embodiment tool to reset and to get to a place where it’s okay.

So if you

could give me one of those, that would be great.

Jana: Actually I have a really great ebook for this which if your coven DMs me the word coven, I will send it to them. So the ebook is a breakdown of the chakras and in it, there is literally a whole list of things that [00:33:00] you can understand about your own physical vessel and the energy imbalances that you might be experiencing.

And. How those it imbalances might be showing up and in it, there are lots of tools, including the crystals that you need the essential oils that you can use or flower essences as well as the different colors that you can, like, start to work with in different ways and. Mantras literally sounds that you can make and mudras shapes you can make with your hands that help you to ground in the energy of finding balance in whatever places that you’re feeling out of control.

So, if you have a lot of anger that’s sitting in your solar plexus, we want to tap into that energy and. Embody that. So whatever it is that you’re like, I just can’t get into [00:34:00] my body about it, understand the body, understand that energetic body. And if you want to know about it again, send me the message, a DM with the word coven, and I will send you my ebook so that you have it and you can start to use it as part of your practice in understanding your body and your ability to create your own balance inside of your body.

Jodi Anne: Beautiful. Thank you. What a beautiful gift to all of us. Thank you, Jana. So lovely having you. .

Jana: Nice to be here. Thank you for having me.

Jodi Anne: I’m going to stop recording.

Jana: Great. That was awesome.