I loved the rich conversation I had with my guest Kimberly Giesin, deep conversations are part of why I love doing this podcast. Kimberly is a Feminine Embodiment Coach, she shares with us how how her healing led her to her spirituality.
You can connect with Kimberly through her webpage
Our conversation weaves through topics of cyclic living and the process of death and rebirth that we go through as part of our healing processes.
Kimberly’s journey into spirituality and understanding the wisdom of her body started with her healing work around her eating disorder. Connecting with the moon and understanding the cycles of that beautiful celestial was a key to helping her understand her own cycles.
We discus the how our human selves can react to the idea of change negatively. The fear that can come up for us and ways we can work with it compassionately. Moving our awareness into the body and nurturing the body can assist us through when we are processing change.
Kimberly gives us practical ways we can move into embodiment.
Shifting our emotional focus into what our body is wanting to do and allowing it to express it self is key to embodiment. She suggests trying swaying or maybe humming as a way to give your body the permission to express itself. To give ourselves time and to be gentle with ourselves.
move into the body with curiosity
Both Kimberly and I use astrology as a way to learn about both ourselves and the cycles we can work with. We can look at the idea of death and rebirth in the seasons and in the phases of the moon.
See full transcript of our conversation below
Transcript
Jodi Anne:
Hello. Hello, my beautiful coven. How are you doing today? I have a very special guest with me. She is going to share all about her journey into embodiment. Have Kimberly Giesen with me. She is a Certified Feminine Embodiment Coach with the School of Embodied Arts.
And my loves, a fellow self identifying witch, which you know makes me happy. So happy. I love when we have other practitioners on who are embracing that, that powerful word, and just walking their witchy walk of transformation and healing and growth. She is working to support other women in claiming for themselves, their own embodiment and their own power. She works mainly through coaching sessions and embodiment practices. And I'm going to link you to her website and we'll put [00:01:00] everything in the show notes so you can get a hold of her. Kimberly, welcome.
Kimberly : Thank you so much for having me and thank you for such a warm welcome.
I'm so happy to be here.
Jodi Anne: How has your day been so far?
Kimberly : It's been, it's been a good day. I had some work to do, earlier in the day , I was away for a few days so it was kind of like getting back into the groove and getting back into a little bit of a routine, which felt nice.
Jodi Anne: So when you talk about getting back into your routine, can you tell me a little bit about what your routine means to you right now and what it would look like? What do you have, a daily practice, a weekly practice?
Tell me about that.
Kimberly :
My routine is very important to me. I am a Virgo. , so I very much , enjoy my routines and being, , stabilized in them. , and it does vary, from day to day, but some of the things that it always consists of are. You know, in the morning I will sit down and I will journal.
I'll usually light a candle and have some coffee or some, like some incense and I will sit and journal and I will just put all my thoughts on the paper. Kind of whatever comes up, if there's any emotions that come up, I will let those release. , sometimes I'll do some somatic practices, just, breathing and holding, , holding myself, moving in my body.
Sometimes we'll do some actual kind of, nonlinear movement flow or some yoga, , exercises. I'm really just kind of, you know, slowly easing into my day I feel like it sets me up. , it helps me to feel more grounded and stable, , before I begin my day. , I find my morning routines to be very important to me.
Jodi Anne:
I like how you right away talked about free movement, like just moving your body in a way that it needs to. Can you tell me a bit, because embodiment is a big piece of what you teach. Can you tell me why that is so important and how that adds to the journaling and the processing of the emotion?
Kimberly :
Yeah, absolutely. For me, it has become so important because for so many years I was very disconnected from myself, and very much living in, in my mind. , I struggled with an eating disorder for a long time and, , which, which led me to be quite disconnected and distrusting of myself.
Also I think even just in, in our society, sometimes it kind of pulls us out of our bodies. So in my own recovery and in my work and in my own healing journey, it was really a process of coming home to myself and rekindling that connection, and building that trust again. And that is something that is, is very important to me.
Jodi Anne:
I like that. You know what really stood out for me when you were talking was the idea of building that trust again. Yeah. Oh my goodness. Does that ever speak to me? In so many ways. Just because I've gone through my own healing and that was a huge piece for me in self nurturing and reconnecting and building a feeling of safety inside my body was to build trust in what my body is.
is telling me and to really listen to it.
Kimberly :
Mm hmm. Yeah, so important. And in the beginning can it can be like so kind of intimidating and scary. But yes, safety is huge. I think in that process. And for me as well, just building safety in the body, safety in connecting to your feelings and your emotions and knowing like that you can trust yourself to ride those out whatever they are.
Jodi Anne:
Yeah. And now we just dived right into some deep topics. So I'm going to like pull us back a little bit so that everyone listening can get a sense of. The journey that you took from where you started and how you came to this place of now you have a beautiful routine, you start your day acknowledging yourself, acknowledging your thoughts, acknowledging your body.
Really honoring where you are at the beginning of the day before you even start it. And I know a lot of people have morning routines, and those of us who do, we didn't just wake up one day with a morning routine, with it all figured out, knowing like, I've got it all together. We usually come to these things through what I call the Phoenix fires of our lives.
Where everything is on fire, even the things we love, and we need to rebuild and find a way to heal and find a way to the other side. And what I love about your story when we get into it is, and what I think will really resonate with everyone in the Earbud Coven, is for you a big piece of it was spirituality and astrology.
and the moon and your connection to it.
Kimberly : Yeah.
Jodi Anne: So tell me how you got from there to here, please. My love.
Kimberly :
Of course I, as you say, yes, I certainly did not start to start there and it was not, , a wake up call. One day and I had it all figured out. It was a slow process that took some time, , to build and to get comfortable in, and even in, the space where I can have it be flexible to where it doesn't have to be the same thing for me every day.
But I very much came from this place of, , productivity and pushing myself and hustle culture and wanting to strive to accomplish and achieve all these, all of these things in my life, I think, and to look a certain way and be a certain way. , so I had a lot of goals. , And a lot of that just really led me to be so outward searching, looking for approval and acceptance from others. And when I really started to dive into self care and healing, it required me to slow down. And, to get curious about, what was going on inside my body. I started with regular, , talk therapy and different programs that I tried.
And they were always leading me outside of my body, essentially.
Jodi Anne: Can you just, can I just go deeper into that? Can you explain that to me?
With the talk therapy, which is a great tool,
Kimberly : Absolutely.
Jodi Anne: Can you expand on how, for you, it felt like it wasn't leading you in the right direction for your healing?
Kimberly :
I think it was a great start for me. It was a great start to become aware of it, but it was really in slowing down, like I said, in connecting to my body through mindfulness practices, , through self compassion, , and self forgiveness and just really looking inward and starting to get in touch with myself.
that's where it kind of very slowly started for me learning how to listen to what I needed. , what was going on inside of me, what my emotions were and offering [00:09:00] myself support, , with whatever was arising , in knowing, you know, very gently, very slowly that I could. That I could be with this and that I could, you know, it was just, I could process it and make it to whatever , the other side of that looked like, or maybe it was deeper, maybe, it's, it's really just, emotions are energy.
It's kind of like riding the wave, , a lot of times, if you just learn to welcome them in, , they do tend to lessen a little bit.
Jodi Anne:
So what I'm hearing, and let's see if I've got this right, is the initial talk therapy was a good tool. And then once you got through that, it sounds like instead of processing verbally and out loud, it was more a somatic process, a turning inward and working with things as they came up.
Kimberly :
Absolutely. , yes, it was, in my learnings through embodiment, Our bodies have different levels different aspects in how we comprehend things. And there is the mind and there's the emotional and there's the energetic and there's the physical and there's the spiritual and all of these, I think talk therapy is very helpful.
but it only touches on one aspect, which is the mind. , so it oftentimes helps , to incorporate these other aspects. On a body level, when you can feel something and you, you recognize it, , on a different level. I mean, I feel like it just kind of brings so much more understanding and compassion and awareness into the process.
Jodi Anne:
That resonates with me. , I have, I've complex PTSD. So there are times when my body signals me. and will react physically. And my mind knows I'm safe. My mind knows. I cognitively know I'm not in danger, but my body continues to react. And it is what you're talking about, that somatic, that deeper level, the cognitive or the mental piece, is only a piece of the healing.
And it's that diving deeper and going into the body and listening to it and healing that aspect. And I totally hear you because my own healing journey, it has been the ancient ways of the wise women connecting with somatic, connecting with my spirituality, for me has been the tools that unlock that next level of healing and that next level of understanding that being able to hold deep compassion for myself and for my past self who I was in the days that experienced the things I'm processing that has been a real key.
Kimberly :
Yeah, I just love what you shared there. And I feel , what kind of came up for me, I feel like I've had a little bit of a similar journey in the spiritual process and connecting to that, that deep inner wisdom, but it really kind of holds this, idea of trust for me, or this need for trust and it's something you know, rebuilding trust with yourself, but also just rebuilding trust in, in life. And, sometimes you don't always know, you're going to take a leap and put yourself out there or try something and you don't always know how it's going to work out, but like trusting that.
It will work out and manifest as it should, as it's meant to anyways for your greatest good, not always what we want, but what, yeah, yes.
Jodi Anne:
And the road to what I think is best for me doesn't always take the path, I think, because I, I think I'm going down a rabbit hole here, but I think I know what is best for me.
I know I want loving connections with people. I want honesty in life. I want joyfulness. And what I'm learning the longer I trust and I follow my intuition is the destination. I know what it is, sort of. But sometimes the road there isn't what I thought, and the lessons that come up for me are different than what I thought I would need to learn to achieve things like peace, or joyfulness, or freedom.
That's a big one for me. The idea of feeling free.
Jodi Anne: Freedom to, to live your life. How, you choose and what works for you?
Kimberly : Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's beautiful.
Jodi Anne: So tell me more about how astrology ties into this journey for you.
Kimberly :
Yes. Going back to, I think this is where I was kind of trying to lead with the, You know, like the hyper productivity and achieving was it had me very much in my masculine.
Just always in this idea that we're constantly supposed to be producing on this level where we always have to be moving and doing and functioning. And for me, it really began, I mean, I was always kind of interested in astrology and learning different pieces and parts of myself.
But earlier in my recovery, I actually kind of started listening to a podcast where this woman introduced me to, using the cycles and the phases of the moon to coordinate my goals and I focused on my recovery from my eating disorder. That's also what her podcast was about.So it helped me in learning about the phases of the moon and the cycles of the moon, it helped me understand that first, we're not always meant to be in that hyper. productive state of life. Not sustainable and it's not natural. So it taught me these ideas of like the cyclical phases of, rest.
And then there's production, there's like this, planting phase, this thoughtfulness phase, and then there's a celebration and a releasing and just really kind of tying into that cycle, and tapping into that more feminine nature of a flow and cyclical and it's just ever evolving.
That's where I think it really started for me. And then learning even about my own cycles. As, a female and there are different energy levels and then even looking outward into the seasons you know, everything has cycles of spring, summer, winter, fall. Yeah. And then tying into that and learning about the moon phases and then understanding that each month, the moon is moving into a different, each couple of days, actually the moon is moving into a different astrological sign, and then it kind of imbues some of these different characteristics, and it's constantly changing and showing up a little bit differently, and that You know, connecting to that and connecting to that presence that was always there and available to me, kind of showed me that I didn't have to constantly show up a certain way.
I was allowed to evolve and change and show up as myself and how I was that day, whether I was feeling a little tired or feeling really energetic or maybe a little moody. And it was all okay and it was all. Acceptable. I think that was where that started for me, where my journey into the feminine started and astrology.
Jodi Anne:
I feel like almost the collective conscience of. Our world and our culture right now is really waking up to feminine living, cyclical living, honoring our cycles, honoring the cycles of the earth and understanding that this real, I call it the patriarch and I label it evil. And I like the way you say it [00:18:00] is just the masculine, the over expression of the masculine of constant expansion.
The idea that we must always. Be a human doing and not a human being. It's so prevalent in our culture and this exhaustion culture like the hustle culture where we take absolute exhaustion, and we glamorize it as some kind of badge of honor, and I feel like that is especially. Thrown at women in our culture.
Anyone socialized as female, we have this We'll sleep when we're dead mentality. We have another shift after the shift we do for our career. We seem to never get down time. And I love how it's the moon that connects that for you. I similarly, I look to the cycles. I look to nature and I You know, [00:19:00] every plant in my garden has a phase of growth, a phase of rest, a phase of retreat, and a phase of death in order to go through rebirth.
Our seasons do. Our rain cycles do. The tides come and go. Everything seems to flow. And when we turn to nature, I, it just baffles me how difficult it is for us in this culture right now to accept that it's okay to pause, to rest, to honor our own energy.
Kimberly :
Yes. Absolutely. And I love even how you brought up the, the cycles of kind of death and rebirth. I think that. The phases of the moon and the seasons kind of really connected me to that for myself as well. And in really honoring that cycle of [00:20:00] allowing yourself to, to die almost like different aspects of you that are no longer serving you and letting go and releasing what is no longer aiding you in life so that you can become something.
Yes.
It's I mean, that is a cyclical phase in itself that is, yeah.
Jodi Anne:
And I think it's when we are afraid of, I think that one of the things that naturally holds us back because as human beings, like we're not awesome with change. We're not awesome with big changes and the idea of the death of the self, the death of the piece of the self.
And I, it's like so synchronicity that you bring that up because it is something that I've been working with for the last about eight or ten months. Just that idea of what of myself am I composting? What of my, and I use the word composting because it's so hard for me. To stand in my power and say, what piece of me will I allow to die for new growth?
I have to frame it as compost or I freak out. Like I have to put it into that idea of like falling leaves or fruit dropping from my energy field just so I don't panic about it. But that is such a key, I think, to rebirth to any growth. You know, that, and it's all happening at the same time. This is something I've been thinking about and journaling about, is, yes, it's all cyclical.
I totally believe it's cyclical, but I've been thinking about this idea of my garden. [00:22:00] If my life is my garden, every time I prune plants, I'm also allowing suckers to grow, and every time I plant seeds, I'm also pulling weeds. So different parts of my garden, different aspects of my garden, are in different phases of the cycle.
And it's all happening at the same time, organically and beautifully.
Kimberly :
I really I love the analogy of, you know, your life as your garden. And I love that you use the word compost too. I sometimes use the word death and decay because the decay to me like is what really nourishes the. You know, the next the growth that comes from that. But I think compost is a, I like, I've never heard anybody use that word before.
I like it.
Jodi Anne: It's all yours. You're welcome to it.
Kimberly :
But it is Very hard. I think I mean, even as for myself, or people that are a little more open to it and familiar with the idea of change and letting go. It still doesn't make it easy. Oh, no. To let go of pieces of yourself. But I do think it's important to try to be open to it.
Jodi Anne: Yeah, I'm a very wise. mentor of mine, she gave me the words when I, because I do struggle and I am stubborn, like you shared that you're a Virgo, I'm an Aries, just a wee bit stubborn. And so she gave me the words, I am open to the idea of being open. That was my prayer when one time in the sweat lodge, right, just because there was I knew I had to release some stuff.
I went to the sweat lodge to sweat it out to offer my sweat to the transformation of that and also to , other prayers of the other women gathered in the lodge. But yeah, when I was struggling, she would say, you don't have to be open to all of it right now. You can take the baby a step forward.
Because our intention is about intention, right? If we can even take them, even just turn towards the direction we want to go, our spirit team will assist us. They will receive that and help us get to the next phase. And my mantra has been, I am open to the idea of being open about this, where I'm open to the idea of letting go.
Of this. I am open to the change that needs to come. I am open to being open to the change that needs to come. Just those little baby steps. And it's always helped me with when my human reacts and goes, No, I'm afraid. Because that visceral, normal, natural reaction can just stop all my spell work and my intention work in its tracks.
Thank you. and create huge delays. So just I'm open to the idea of having to compost this thing in my life.
Kimberly :
Yeah. No, that's beautiful. I'm curious. I have, and I think this within this past, year and a half I've gone through some big changes for myself in my life. And I think it has really deepened my practice and my trust in just, And in nature and tuning into rituals and just different things that I can do for myself to support myself in these times that.
Times of change that can feel really challenging and turbulent. And I'm curious, I guess I'm happy to share some things that I do, but if you have it,
Jodi Anne: oh, share away, please. I'd love to hear what you're doing. Yeah.
Kimberly :
Some of them just are very simple, like you said, just like little phrases that you offer to, to yourself. But I've really kind of gotten into just spending a lot of time in nature and going for walks doing rituals with burning and releasing what no longer serves me.
Jodi Anne: Tell me more about the ritual of burning. How do you set up your burning ritual for anyone listening who's not as familiar with it?
Kimberly : So it kind of, I guess depends on how I'm feeling for [00:27:00] the day or maybe what the weather is like. Sometimes I'll just sit and I will write in my journal or write on small pieces of paper. Maybe what it is that.
That I'm wanting to move towards or even let go of and if it feels like a, the day that I have time to maybe go outside and have a fire or something, I will do that and I will say some words or read my papers out loud. Or sometimes if it's kind of crummy weather outside, I'll just even do it inside in a safe way, whether it's just like with a bowl or over the sink or even over the toilet sometimes just like burning so that, you know, it's safe and doesn't catch on fire.
Yes. And, but then afterwards, like really moving into my body and like letting my body move and try to release some of that energy that comes [00:28:00] up with the reading or comes up with the intention of burning and releasing and really trying to move it through my body with the hope that after some time of releasing, I can move into a place of more free flow and maybe even celebration and joy of what I want to call into my life.
Jodi Anne: I love that. I love the piece of moving after doing a burning ceremony of like tuning into your body and allowing it to process. Yeah.
Kimberly :
Yeah. It usually it usually starts Yeah, like a little slow moving into the body and then, depending on, just I guess how you're feeling that day and progress, however, but.
And for you, so even my own self, I'm going in,
Jodi Anne: I want to check with you. There's no wrong way to move with this work.
Correct.
Kimberly :
Yes, I believe so. It's really just tuning into your body and letting your body. move you.
Jodi Anne: So for someone who's just first starting to connect, what is a way they can move into the body?
Like, would you do it with breath work or just mindfulness into your body? What would you suggest?
Kimberly : You can do, I mean, the simplest, I think, way for me to connect is just with the breath. I think that is an easy way to be, I mean, bringing awareness to the breath and moving the breath into the body. You know, feeling how it moves and flows and just bringing some curiosity to that.
Jodi Anne: Oh, I like that.
Kimberly :
I think curiosity is a very kind of key piece to embodiment, even when you're diving into the body and just feeling into what's there, getting curious about what's there. I think that's the And an easy way to get started for sure. And then you can bring in even music, sometimes some movements and just kind of gentle swaying moving in any way, and then expanding upon that to however your body eventually wants to move or feels comfortable in moving. And then even through sound whether it's like humming or, I mean, you can, it can be.
Expressed in any way that your body wants to kind of. Just again, like maybe starting small and then moving into grunting or like screaming either, like whatever bodily expressions like you, you feel like will help you connect to whatever you're sensing and move that through the body.
Jodi Anne:
I'm so going to do this, my next burning ceremony, cause I burn lots of stuff.
Like I totally do. I'm going to, I'm going to I think if I just allow my body to sway. And then hum a little bit. I'm sure it'll come because I've done ecstatic dance, but I've never thought of doing that with like just a burning ceremony. I do tend to stay up in that real heady space when I'm doing some ritual work, unless I know I'm going to be doing ecstatic dance to raise energy in order to do spell work, but I haven't thought of it in connection with like other than yoga in connection with moving through emotion.
Oh I'm so gonna try that my next ceremony. I'll be messaging you. I'll be like, Oh my God, I really, this is the best thing.
Kimberly : I was going to say yes, please. I want to know how it goes. Let me know. I love it.
Jodi Anne:
And I love that because I think it's such a, it's such a small, but just listening to the energy that you're taught as you talk about it and I can see how just that small shift will probably unlock a lot of things for everyone in the earbud coven listening, like any kind of journal work even or release work if you just give your body the opportunity to move a little bit with curiosity.
Love that.
Tell me about how astrology led you to understand different aspects of yourself and how that ties [00:33:00] into the theme of death and rebirth and how you've seen those aspects expand and grow and what you've let go of through that process.
Kimberly :
I think in the beginning when I was learning astrology, I loved learning about it because I used it as a tool to learn about myself, especially in that very beginning phase where I was so disconnected from who I was, and I loved learning that it wasn't just, the one sign, the sun sign, there's multiple aspects that you can, that can pull in and that kind of portray different parts of you, your emotional needs, the way you show up in the world, the way you work in the world, the way you are with romance and friendships and careers and relationships.
Jodi Anne:
And so for anyone who hasn't dived into astrology, your rising sign and how that shows up for you and your moon sign and what that [00:34:00] reflects. I'm a very tip of the iceberg with astrology. I'm learning deeper about it this year. So as far as I know, your moon sign is kind of who you are emotionally with yourself.
Do I have that right?
Kimberly : Mm hmm.
Jodi Anne:
And then your rising sign is like how you present to the world. So I'm an Aries, so the core of who I am. of how I show up is this fiery juvenile attitude of adventure. But I'm also a Virgo rising, so I love order, and I love systems, and it's not surprising that I'm a tarot fanatic, because it's very systematic.
And I really love ritual, and I come across as organized, even though in my head . I'm not. And I'm an Aries moon. So I very much will dig in my heels and [00:35:00] not outwardly as an adult and just tantrum inside myself when I don't like things very much like that juvenile fiery Aries. So is that what you mean by finding the different aspects?
Kimberly :
Yeah. just. Developing a deeper understanding of yourself like for me, I'm a a Gemini rising. So how I present to the world sometimes can be, you know, like chatty and light and maybe bubbly and and, but my sun sign is a Virgo. And my moon sign is a Pisces.
So I do tend to be a little bit more introverted and introspective. So my, the way, can potentially come across right away. I am, I feel warm and welcoming, but I'm also reserved and really enjoy my alone time and time to reflect and spend time with [00:36:00] myself and understanding that aspect of myself, I think helps me in a way.
And then even just, learning about different placements in the sky and how things move with the retrogrades and things. I think that helped even deepen my understanding with. The whole cyclical nature of life, how there's a time for moving forward, and then there's a time for revision and looking at things and knowing that, we're not always constantly moving forward and working hurried hurriedly at a fast pace, how I was relating it to death and dying, I think was key.
And maybe not clinging, so I think in the beginning I clung to these identities because they originally helped me, very much understand myself. But in this also understanding of death and dying and growing and being, becoming something more it's almost like I had to learn how to let go a little bit of these identities so that they could become something richer, something more evolved and diverse.
Jodi Anne:
So I hear that instead of just the surface as you dive deeper into astrology and not so much just astrology, but as you learn more about yourself and how you show up in the world and your own cycles, you've been able to let go of some of your first impressions of where you were at the beginning of your healing and the first impressions almost of who you were in the first stages and you're seeing your evolution and I feel like you're seeing it in the reflection of your understanding of astrology. Do I got it?
Kimberly : You got it. Yes. Thank you.
I was just gonna say I was like, I'm gonna ask you a little bit about developing your gifts,
Jodi Anne: yeah. Yeah, go ahead.
Kimberly : So, yeah, I'm very intrigued. How did you spend time developing your gifts? In this aspect, like of intuition,
Jodi Anne:
so I was born pretty like I was wide open and like many, and through my teens, I had a lot of like psychic and poltergeist activity and I was a goth in the nineties and my mom jokes.
She's like, I always thought you'd grow out of this and now look at you do this for real. She's a love, I actually, I worked on a one 900 psychic line. I answered an ad and I was like, I wonder if I could actually do this. And I worked on a one 900 psychic line. I was hanging out with other psychics for the first time, like working mediums for the first time. And so when our phones weren't ringing, we were almost having like mini development classes.
And then I veered off that path for a while and I chose to further my education the 1 900 market was crashing, economically, and I was like, okay, I gotta figure something out.And then I got to a place where I bought a new deck of tarot cards and I asked someone at the store, I'm like, hey do you guys need any readers? And they were like, yes. And then I started doing readings there and through that I met a community of psychics and I started taking development classes.
I really wanted to get better and really hone my skills. So I sat circle for a couple years, probably every second Tuesday just working with other psychics. There'd be a lot of sharing and then I've, I sat circle also with a shamanic teacher, or technically we sit for a year and a day, but I think she mentored me for about two years and then I started taking shamanic courses from her mentors as well.
So I learned how to journey with a drum and I learned how to do more channeling and really bringing goddess energy in and getting messages directly from goddess energy and God energy, but I love goddess energy. So that's who I channel most of the time. And so, yeah, I took classes and I did a lot of shamanic work. On energy body stuff and cord cutting. So all of these different traditional shamanic teachings
I have on my web page you can go I've actually decided. To I have an in honor of section of my web page is I feel it's important to honor the teachers who've given me their teachings and also because I don't know, I just really believe in honoring where the teachings come from, but also handing them forward so that the next school of gurus.
I don't like the word guru, but the next school of witches that come through, they can stand on our shoulders. Like I've got this lineage behind me. And because I do, you can stand here with me and we can boost you further. And then the next generation after that, we can boost them further so that eventually collectively we can all evolve and connect to all this wisdom.
Kimberly : Yeah, I love that.
Jodi Anne: Big answer, but that's
Kimberly :
no, thank you so much. I, it sounds like an amazing experience and an amazing journey and that you learned from a lot of wonderful people and teachers.
Jodi Anne:
Yeah, I've been doing this for, well, and that's part of why I wanted to do the podcast. Cause like I've been on this path for like, God, since I was 17. So that's almost 30 years, right? That is actually, that is 30 years if I do actual math, right?
Kimberly :
Yeah. Yeah. So you have a lot of experience and wisdom to give. Yeah. Thank you for sharing. Your wisdom with theirs.
Jodi Anne:
Thank you for sharing with us about embodiment and about your own healing. I had a couple of questions I was going to ask. Oh, do you have anything to say because you have done a lot of healing and Do you have any, for anyone struggling, like, I really feel like the recovery from disordered eating is very specific, and it carries its own wound.
And if anyone in the Earbud Coven is struggling with that, do you have any wisdom from this place you are, where your life is? full of contentment and joy and beauty and you feel comfortable in your skin.
Kimberly : I would say
you are not broken or there's nothing wrong with you for how you wound up on this path. It has nothing to do with anything being wrong with you. So please forgive yourself and just know that, you know, , in offering yourself some slow and gentle love can really move you forward in a big way.
Jodi Anne: And they can go to your website for more coaching.
Kimberly : Yeah.
Jodi Anne: What is your website, my love?
Kimberly : It is in my name, it's https://Kimberly Giesin. com.
And yeah, they can, they can find me there or I have an Instagram or even a Facebook that they can connect with me at Kimberly. Geeson or Kimberly Geeson Feminine Embodiment Coaching.
And they can reach out to me. They can send me a message and I would be happy just to chat with them or they can even just book a, a free call with me just to get some support and, have a conversation.
Jodi Anne: And the direct links will be in the description here on whatever streaming platform you are on.
If you go to the episode info, Kimberly's links will be there and everything will also be on my website in the show notes.
This is lovely. Thank you so much for sharing with us.
Kimberly : Yeah. Thank you so much. Jodi. It's been a beautiful conversation. Just enjoyed having a call with you. Well, and I just, I love how willing you are to go into deep realms of esoteric healing. I love it. I love deep conversations.
Jodi Anne: Me too. Thank you so much. Thank you.
And I'm totally going to the next time I burn. I'm totally going to, I'm going to move and I'm going to, , yeah,
Kimberly: I love to hear about it.
Jodi Anne: I mean, I'm . Totally. I'm excited.
Okay. I am going to stop recording.
Jodi Anne 
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